Windows 10 - Free

[Alexraptor]

Don't see what the fuss is about. I have Windows 8 and it does everything it should do for me. I can browse on the internet, I can use word processors and download porn. You flimsy-nerd-I-want-special-shirt-so-I-can-play-games-attitude is just lame.

Its got a shit interface, which is why pretty much everyone who works with computers as a profession hate it.
Companies also hate it because unlike previus versions of Windows, they would have to re-educate their staff to use Windows 8 in a productive manner.

[Shroombuck]

What the hell are you talking about? My interface looks exactly as Windows 7 does.

[Carbonizer]

He means the "Metro" interface.


For the most part, it is a great idea for mobile and tablet yet for desktops I found it clunky to use. Then again, after most of my pc using has consisted of using a start button and having icons on a desktop. Anything foreign is bound to be annoying and strange.

[Janeway]

What the hell are you talking about? My interface looks exactly as Windows 7 does.

Unfortunately my dear Shroom, you can't debate with one so ill-informed as our dear Alexraptor.

I enjoy Windows 8 and find it a welcome improvement from Windows 7. Metro apps and the Start Screen is excellent for those of us with 27" screens or projectors. No more having to deal with the tiny font of that stupid start menu. In fact, I was like "the start screen and charms bar better be in 10 or I'll stick with 8."

Nothing is wrong with Windows 8. The only people that complain about it is usually the "nerds" because they can't either run the OS or don't understand its simplicity and ease of use.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Windows Vista but again the "nerds" complained about it because they simply didn't have the computers to run the OS. In fact, many of those "nerds" decreed that Windows 7 is better than Windows Vista because its kernel is based off of XP not realizing that the NT 6.x branch is based off of Windows Longhorn (hint: you'd know it as Windows Vista).

Funny thing was, a lot of them did it again: proclaiming 7 is best for being "based of XP" and 8 "based off Vista." Well, at least they got that last part right. I guess they didn't realize Vista was NT 6, 7 was NT 6.1, 8 is NT 6.2, while 2000 and XP I believe share the NT 5.x branch.

I guarantee you everyone will clamor for Windows 10.

Windows Vista and Windows 8 had the misfortune of being the OS' that required more computing power and introducing new paradigms. By the time 7 rolled around everyone had computers capable of running Vista just as 10 rolls around people will not only have computers up to spec for Windows 8 but understand the simplicity of Metro and how the paradigm coexists with Win32 apps.

I just want to know if Windows Media Center exists in Windows 10. Even if it's a $20 thing like it was in 8 I'm fine with it. It just better still be there.

The only bad Windows were ME and 98 (pre Second Edition/98 SE). Especially ME. That thing was abhorrent.

[Jesse]

What the hell are you talking about? My interface looks exactly as Windows 7 does.

Unfortunately my dear Shroom, you can't debate with one so ill-informed as our dear Alexraptor.

I enjoy Windows 8 and find it a welcome improvement from Windows 7. Metro apps and the Start Screen is excellent for those of us with 27" screens or projectors. No more having to deal with the tiny font of that stupid start menu. In fact, I was like "the start screen and charms bar better be in 10 or I'll stick with 8."

Nothing is wrong with Windows 8. The only people that complain about it is usually the "nerds" because they can't either run the OS or don't understand its simplicity and ease of use.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Windows Vista but again the "nerds" complained about it because they simply didn't have the computers to run the OS. In fact, many of those "nerds" decreed that Windows 7 is better than Windows Vista because its kernel is based off of XP not realizing that the NT 6.x branch is based off of Windows Longhorn (hint: you'd know it as Windows Vista).

Funny thing was, a lot of them did it again: proclaiming 7 is best for being "based of XP" and 8 "based off Vista." Well, at least they got that last part right. I guess they didn't realize Vista was NT 6, 7 was NT 6.1, 8 is NT 6.2, while 2000 and XP I believe share the NT 5.x branch.

I guarantee you everyone will clamor for Windows 10.

Windows Vista and Windows 8 had the misfortune of being the OS' that required more computing power and introducing new paradigms. By the time 7 rolled around everyone had computers capable of running Vista just as 10 rolls around people will not only have computers up to spec for Windows 8 but understand the simplicity of Metro and how the paradigm coexists with Win32 apps.

I just want to know if Windows Media Center exists in Windows 10. Even if it's a $20 thing like it was in 8 I'm fine with it. It just better still be there.

The only bad Windows were ME and 98 (pre Second Edition/98 SE). Especially ME. That thing was abhorrent.

Wait... what? You LIKE Windows 8? Any desktop operating system that opens every app full screen on my 29" screen is designed by muppets. Windows 8 is great for tablets, but for desktop PC's... it's schizophrenic. It's two operating systems trying to kill each other. It doesn't matter how great or efficient Windows 8 is otherwise, because the user interface gets in the way of you doing work every time. A few lines of code is all it takes to ruin an otherwise great OS. Windows 10 corrects this with what probably amounted to 15 minutes of coding by one guy.

[Janeway]

Wait... what? You LIKE Windows 8? Any desktop operating system that opens every app full screen on my 29" screen is designed by muppets. Windows 8 is great for tablets, but for desktop PC's... it's schizophrenic. It's two operating systems trying to kill each other. It doesn't matter how great or efficient Windows 8 is otherwise, because the user interface gets in the way of you doing work every time. A few lines of code is all it takes to ruin an otherwise great OS. Windows 10 corrects this with what probably amounted to 15 minutes of coding by one guy.

Don't get me wrong, Windows 8 has its annoying quirks like the fact that Metro Internet Explorer can't be launched without IE being the default browser which I would never do but I don't understand the logic against Metro.

The thing is, Metro apps are like entertainment apps to me. These are the things I would use on my iPad. I want Netflix to be full screen. I want Amazon Instant Video, HBO Go, etc. to be full screen. Skype can snap to a screen corner to take up far less than the Win32 version while doing everything I want it to. Most importantly, Metro apps can be controlled by a remote control.

If I want to use Office 2013, Adobe CS6, Chrome and other apps that are "productivity apps" then I have the desktop. And if for some reason I want to shove Skype or Netflix into one of the corners I can easily snap them without having to resize my open windows.

I know Windows 8 at release had a very limited "snap" functionality but Windows 8.1 fixed that. I still have ModernMix installed from the Windows 8 launch days but I don't use it anymore. Metro has just never gotten in the way for me (except for the "PC Settings" app which doesn't make sense for desktops)

[Shroombuck]

I just want to know if Windows Media Center exists in Windows 10. Even if it's a $20 thing like it was in 8 I'm fine with it. It just better still be there.

Even I know that VLC is far better to watch porn than Media Center.

[Alexraptor]

What the hell are you talking about? My interface looks exactly as Windows 7 does.

Unfortunately my dear Shroom, you can't debate with one so ill-informed as our dear Alexraptor.

I enjoy Windows 8 and find it a welcome improvement from Windows 7. Metro apps and the Start Screen is excellent for those of us with 27" screens or projectors. No more having to deal with the tiny font of that stupid start menu. In fact, I was like "the start screen and charms bar better be in 10 or I'll stick with 8."

Nothing is wrong with Windows 8. The only people that complain about it is usually the "nerds" because they can't either run the OS or don't understand its simplicity and ease of use.

Just like there was nothing wrong with Windows Vista but again the "nerds" complained about it because they simply didn't have the computers to run the OS. In fact, many of those "nerds" decreed that Windows 7 is better than Windows Vista because its kernel is based off of XP not realizing that the NT 6.x branch is based off of Windows Longhorn (hint: you'd know it as Windows Vista).

Funny thing was, a lot of them did it again: proclaiming 7 is best for being "based of XP" and 8 "based off Vista." Well, at least they got that last part right. I guess they didn't realize Vista was NT 6, 7 was NT 6.1, 8 is NT 6.2, while 2000 and XP I believe share the NT 5.x branch.

I guarantee you everyone will clamor for Windows 10.

Windows Vista and Windows 8 had the misfortune of being the OS' that required more computing power and introducing new paradigms. By the time 7 rolled around everyone had computers capable of running Vista just as 10 rolls around people will not only have computers up to spec for Windows 8 but understand the simplicity of Metro and how the paradigm coexists with Win32 apps.

I just want to know if Windows Media Center exists in Windows 10. Even if it's a $20 thing like it was in 8 I'm fine with it. It just better still be there.

The only bad Windows were ME and 98 (pre Second Edition/98 SE). Especially ME. That thing was abhorrent.

Wait... what? You LIKE Windows 8? Any desktop operating system that opens every app full screen on my 29" screen is designed by muppets. Windows 8 is great for tablets, but for desktop PC's... it's schizophrenic. It's two operating systems trying to kill each other. It doesn't matter how great or efficient Windows 8 is otherwise, because the user interface gets in the way of you doing work every time. A few lines of code is all it takes to ruin an otherwise great OS. Windows 10 corrects this with what probably amounted to 15 minutes of coding by one guy.

Exactly that Jesse. And do you know what the kicker is? The Start Menu was still in the system as recently as the Release Candidate version of Windows 8, and was removed ONLY after people discovered you could re-enable it with by editing the system registry, and disable that god awful Metro Interface.
Essentially Microsoft forcefully shoved Metro down people's throats, and that alone created a whole lot of resentment and prejudice against the OS.

Now I absolutely ADORE Windows Phone 8, and thats where the Metro Interface belongs, on touch sensetive devices.

But Hell, even Apple isn't stupid enough to make OS X look and behave like iOS. And fundamentally, the Mac OS interface has remained unchanged since 1984.

1984


2014


Take what works, refine and polish it, enhance it, but never ever rework it if it's not broken.

Unfortunately my dear Shroom, you can't debate with one so ill-informed as our dear Alexraptor.

Choose your words with care. I've been using Windows 8/8.1 since it was released, and use it on a daily basis, and its "tolerable" on a laptop" with its smaller screen and multi-touch pad.
But its absolutely unbearable on desktop computer with a large monitor, incredibly clunky and unwieldy, which is why my high-end gaming rig sticks with Windows 7 for now.

[Costello]

Microsoft are fundamentally inept when it comes to design.

[Janeway]

But Hell, even Apple isn't stupid enough to make OS X look and behave like iOS. And fundamentally, the Mac OS interface has remained unchanged since 1984.

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Choose your words with care. I've been using Windows 8/8.1 since it was released, and use it on a daily basis, and its "tolerable" on a laptop" with its smaller screen and multi-touch pad.
But its absolutely unbearable on desktop computer with a large monitor, incredibly clunky and unwieldy, which is why my high-end gaming rig sticks with Windows 7 for now.

I'm gong to give you the benefit of the doubt here but you do know that "Launchpad" is literally the iOS Home Screen for Mac. Which means you would also know that Notification Center is almost a carbon copy of the original iOS Notification Center. Even the App Store on OS X can be traced back to iOS a long with the new Messages app and Facetime (though you could say they can trace back to iChat). iOS can be found throughout OS X Yosemite and Mavericks.

What Apple did right was gradually introduce these changes and opted not to shove them into the forefront like Microsoft did. That's what Microsoft is fixing in Windows 10 - they aren't shoving Metro into the forefront even though the damage has been done.

With my high end PC I've opted for Windows 8. 75% of the time it just operates as a file and media server so I'm never usually at it. The other 20% of the time it's being used to display entertainment in my screening room via a Wireless HDMI transceiver so I have Windows 8 set up so I can control it with a remote control. Then there is the final 5% where I'm physically at the PC but I don't really interact with Metro then unless you consider interacting with the charms bar as interacting with Metro.

Frankly, I prefer my Mac and iPad over Windows so yeah :).